Curse

Sophitia Leafblade · Dec 12, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19

*shudders* i personally totally dislike both vampiric and Zealous mods, especially Zealous.

I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison.

ramma77 · Dec 12, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

*shudders* i personally totally dislike both vampiric and Zealous mods, especially Zealous.

I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison.

might be the worst for you but it's the best for some.
zealous on a scythe is real nice.
cyclone axe and triple chop with a zealous is nice

Sophitia Leafblade · Dec 12, 2006, 12:37 PM // 12:37

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Originally Posted by ramma77

might be the worst for you but it's the best for some.
zealous on a scythe is real nice.
cyclone axe and triple chop with a zealous is nice

a scythe i could possibly understand, a set of daggers too, perhaps,

but the cyclone, triple chop, well that doesnt work very effectively unless ur solo farming, which in either case even a vampiric, furious or sundering would be better so u can kill them quicker and increase ur money faster.

Thom Bangalter · Dec 12, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

So...this topic degenerated from a post on elemental sword skins to really trashy posts on sundering/vampiric/zealous, which no one Ive seen has posted anything remotely intelligent about?

GG.

GFG.

dgb · Dec 12, 2006, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark

and why exaclty does sundering suck so much?

Because it does jack all damage compared to vampiric.

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Originally Posted by aohige

Sundering is ideal for spiking/focus attack, mainly used in GvG.

No it's not. If you assume a three hit chain from an axe, I'd take a guaranteed nine damage every time as opposed to a ~12 damage that only irregularly comes up.

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Originally Posted by aohige

I'm assuming he probably don't have much GvG experience, to make a statement like that.

You're assuming completely incorrectly.

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

I see a use for Vampiric atleast but i still dislike it. Zealous has got to be by far the worse weopon mod, sundering is an amazing mod in comparison.

It's called energy management. If you hit more than once every three seconds you get more energy back from zealous than you lose. Axes attack every 1.33s, that is you get back 2.2 energy every three seconds from zealous and lose 1 energy in degen. You are making a profit of 1.2 energy/3s or just over one pip. That's without an IAS

So in conclusion the reason you use Zealous is because you're using something that requires energy and needs more than two pips to power it.

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

So...this topic degenerated from a post on elemental sword skins to really trashy posts on sundering/vampiric/zealous, which no one Ive seen has posted anything remotely intelligent about?

GG.

GFG.

I'm not particularly sorry. You want high end discussion, stick to threads which are on a slightly more intelectual topic than e-penis stretching through your weaponry. Sundering sucks, it's a generally accepted view amongst the higher end of the GW playerbase unless I've missed something recently and I'm trying to improve the general level of the playerbase. Do you prefer to let people wallow in their own scrubiness?

For those who are more interested there is a thread at Team-iQ which puts out maths that pretty comprehensively shows that vampiric is better. There are a few people who still argue that the potential of getting multiple sunder-processes in a spike is worth it, despite your spike having issues the rest of the time and there's a potentially interesting idea about scythes/hammers, GFTE! and sundering but for general play, vampiric has been shown to beat the hell out of sundering.

http://www.team-iq.net/forums/showth...id=1319&page=1

Read it and weep sunderscrubs.

ramma77 · Dec 12, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

a scythe i could possibly understand, a set of daggers too, perhaps,

but the cyclone, triple chop, well that doesnt work very effectively unless ur solo farming, which in either case even a vampiric, furious or sundering would be better so u can kill them quicker and increase ur money faster.

bash some enemies, swap to zealous axe, cyclone them, triple chop them, swap to whatever axe. rinse and repeat.

Lord Mendes · Dec 12, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by dgb

I'm not particularly sorry. You want high end discussion, stick to threads which are on a slightly more intelectual topic than e-penis stretching through your weaponry. Sundering sucks, it's a generally accepted view amongst the higher end of the GW playerbase unless I've missed something recently and I'm trying to improve the general level of the playerbase. Do you prefer to let people wallow in their own scrubiness?

For those who are more interested there is a thread at Team-iQ which puts out maths that pretty comprehensively shows that vampiric is better. There are a few people who still argue that the potential of getting multiple sunder-processes in a spike is worth it, despite your spike having issues the rest of the time and there's a potentially interesting idea about scythes/hammers, GFTE! and sundering but for general play, vampiric has been shown to beat the hell out of sundering.

http://www.team-iq.net/forums/showth...id=1319&page=1

Read it and weep sunderscrubs.

What makes me laugh is that you are saying this to thom

unienaule · Dec 12, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Um, not elemental sword discussion, closed.